I hope that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, it causes such a fucking uproar that we end up with more rights than we had before. I know I can take it like a man. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. I had to spend the night with her at work. Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. Ive been around so many people for so long who were. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. She has a big conscience, a big heart. You can have as much fun. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. Tommy Duncan was the singer. Its pretty obvious.. I am Terry Gross. For my children, I did what I had to do. GROSS: What I hear in your voice is that it rings out. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. But they also understood that I was a kid. You used to lean in like I was whispering, any excuse to get near again. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. It was love at first listen. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? Its not competition, Isbell makes clear with a chuckle. I didnt believe it. I accept it now. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. And then and neither of them told us that stuff. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. A woman threw a house party with 65 men she matched with on Tinder and Hinge and connected with the man she's been dating for a year. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. And I got awarded a scholarship to be able to go to those. GROSS: Lets take another break here. I know the cost of flight is landing. It is not trapped in your throat. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. And it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression and trying to do something for me that could make me make sense, I guess. You may opt-out by, U.S. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. I cant see a thing from here. In 2016 there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. And I know I can take it like a man. I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. And I hadnt heard the fiddle being played at all. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. This fight is about more than just abortion. People dont have to come to a concert, Isbell said. I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. And I followed a dress code. I know what the cost is in the octaves of consequence. And so I just had to get emergency surgery to remove the tube and clean the blood from inside of my body. GROSS: That your Father had spent 25 years in Alcatraz? And youve called on country music stars to speak out, too. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. And I said, thats all you have to say? Its yet another thing that, when policing does happen, is going to happen haphazardly and ruin lives. I think thats what people keep forgetting. And she came over and I showed her. GROSS: Oh, thats great. And I said, I dont know. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. You can keep the car and the house. Become a member of WLIW ($5 monthly or $60 annually) and get access to WLIW Passport as our thanks for your support. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine Thank you for doing the interview. I never wouldve thought that before, but now I know its true. "Maybe it was circumstance, but I saw my chance and I took it," she boasts, her tone fuzzed-out by distortion. Here was my life five years ago, and heres my life now. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. No more? But through the process of making the record and all the things that go with that, the hours and the tedium, it got easier for us to have conversations, not because we were doing the work of addressing the problems, but because we found common ground on something again, which has always been music and words.. And how come you didnt know before? GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. They arent helping. In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." And my stuff worked. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? Which would I rather have? Theres not a lot of filler, not a lot of songs I would skip through, he says. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. A parking lot at night is a setting in which many women have learned to feel unsafe, to hurry about their business with heightened awareness that any strange figure approaching may have sinister intentions. And we had a TV that wed watch, you know, Saturday Night Live on Saturdays. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. Not saying something is not helping. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. We found all this out afterwards. 1,286 talking about this. Fully renovated in 1994, the Ryman has never been more vibrant, attracting entertainers and fans from around the globe to enjoy its now legendary acoustics and rich history.Connect with the Ryman Auditorium:Like the Ryman Auditorium on FACEBOOK: http://bit.ly/rymanfbCheck out the Ryman Auditorium on INSTAGRAM: ttp://bit.ly/RymanInstagram Follow the Ryman Auditorium on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/tweettherymanBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman | Ryman Auditoriumhttp://www.youtube.com/user/RymanAuditorium#AmandaShires, #Ryman, #TheHighwomen, #RymanAuditorium, #BackstageattheRyman And the reason I think that my grandmother knew is because also lately, we found out that my moms oldest sister isnt doesnt have the same dad as her, as my granddad. Never one to shy away from his beliefs, Isbell implored his fellow man, in Alabama or otherwise, to get vaccinated, that is, if they wanted to see him perform in person, hoping to make a difference. The song is called Empty Cups.. Is there a song that youd like to do? Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. I wouldnt go back and change it. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. SHIRES: I found that out for Christmas, Jasons merchandise guy, Chance, gave us each our family trees. And when I would write these songs, it was never in my mind, oh, I have to record them. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. And it was a picture of hands holding on to nothing. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. But this part of my life in our marriage was difficult. GROSS: One of the things I love about his music is the way he combined the spiritual and the profane in his songs and the spiritual and, like, anger and resentment and despair. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. But I did move a couple of times out of the house, not because it was a leaving thing, but because I didnt want to do anything that would harm, you know, make it worse. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. SHIRES: Honestly, a lot of times, my thoughts come to me just in pictures. Web0:00 / 2:57 Amanda Shires - Fault Lines (Official Audio) Amanda Shires 26.8K subscribers Subscribe 23K views 6 months ago "Fault Lines" is on Amanda Shires' new album. The majority of people are in favor of womens reproductive rights and health; its others were trying to get to. Rock & roll kids just let decisions make themselves. Its a lot like writing a song about it. And because of that, I felt like we should make it something thats as safe as it can possibly be. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. I am Terry Gross. If you want a partner, take my hand or only you want to strike me down in anger, here I stand. So I started just taking notes on the radio because I heard it. To see more, visit. I was gifted as a girl. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. We just couldnt get along. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. SHIRES: But some of the words are funny. After recording and touring for several years with the Drive-By Truckers, for whom he wrote standouts including Decoration Day, Outfit and Danko/Manuel, Isbell launched his solo career in 2007. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. And I also want to thank Zack Sedgefield for playing guitar and also Diana Walsh, who engineered your end of the music and the conversation from your home studio in well, outside of Nashville. What does he have to lose? SHIRES: I just I have never been a fan of the way my voice sounds. Along In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. My family left Honduras when they killed the Sandinistas. And so you know Ill say, I dont know, but no ones going to be asking me. And Zachs going to play guitar. Some of the reason [The Problem] is only coming out now is fear on my part, and Ill admit that. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. Theres nothing left to fix. Why not? Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. Yeah without you asking. And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. Look at Texas' Primary. All Rights reserved. And I remember the first time I sang ever, Leon Rausch had to hold my hand. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. Why werent you accepting it? GROSS: Yeah. And I know that he feels the same way I do. ISBELL: (Singing) Im on your side. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. Amid the rise in infections, it was reported last week that one of the worlds most prominent concert promoters, Live Nation, will allow artists performing at its venues to require guests in the U.S. to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test. And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. And a lot of its multilayered, the meaning take it like a man. And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. Then her character takes control of the exchange in a teasing tone. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. I tried so hard to make myself clear. Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires Celebrate Vinyl and Indie Retail as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors: Were Building the Embassy as We Speak. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. GROSS: You know, your husband plays on this album, but the songs are about a bad period in your marriage. When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. 2023 WNET. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. It rings out like its supposed to. credit: John Shearer. And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. I got to a certain age and realized I couldnt be Indiana Jones.. Shires has released seven solo albums starting in 2005, her most recent being Take It Like a Man in 2022. I had people threatening me. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. 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